CIC AVR KRIKZZ NO WORK
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CIC AVR KRIKZZ NO WORK
Hi guys. i'm having a nightmare with cic avr krizkzzz tiny13a
first . my gq4x4 does not identify its id.
second only my tlL866 writes it
can give 100 reset on nes. he didn't find the region
the question is simple. on another nes of a friend this worked. in my no. any clues as to why. because the cic is correct and it's no use resetting that won't.
first . my gq4x4 does not identify its id.
second only my tlL866 writes it
can give 100 reset on nes. he didn't find the region
the question is simple. on another nes of a friend this worked. in my no. any clues as to why. because the cic is correct and it's no use resetting that won't.
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It seems dumb, but I believe the attiny13a immediately quits using the internal clock when you program it with this configuration. Before it's done programming. So you need to give it a clock signal.
I program them in-circuit, I built a board with a 72-pin connector that has only power/gnd, the avr programming signals (to what would be NES CIC pins) and a 4mhz oscillator. later on I modified my NES to switch between live CIC and AVR programming pins, I write it in my NES (with the lockout chip clocking it so it can finish programming).
I have a totally different setup over here, but here are the commands I use.
avrdude -i 10000 -c usbtiny -p t13 -U flash:w:avrciczz.hex
avrdude -c usbtiny -p t13 -U hfuse:w:hfuse.hex
avrdude -c usbtiny -p t13 -U lfuse:w:lfuse.hex
I program them in-circuit, I built a board with a 72-pin connector that has only power/gnd, the avr programming signals (to what would be NES CIC pins) and a 4mhz oscillator. later on I modified my NES to switch between live CIC and AVR programming pins, I write it in my NES (with the lockout chip clocking it so it can finish programming).
I have a totally different setup over here, but here are the commands I use.
avrdude -i 10000 -c usbtiny -p t13 -U flash:w:avrciczz.hex
avrdude -c usbtiny -p t13 -U hfuse:w:hfuse.hex
avrdude -c usbtiny -p t13 -U lfuse:w:lfuse.hex
Re: CIC AVR KRIKZZ NO WORK
do you think it's worth it for me to buy a stk500?Memblers wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 4:23 pm It seems dumb, but I believe the attiny13a immediately quits using the internal clock when you program it with this configuration. Before it's done programming. So you need to give it a clock signal.
I program them in-circuit, I built a board with a 72-pin connector that has only power/gnd, the avr programming signals (to what would be NES CIC pins) and a 4mhz oscillator. later on I modified my NES to switch between live CIC and AVR programming pins, I write it in my NES (with the lockout chip clocking it so it can finish programming).
I have a totally different setup over here, but here are the commands I use.
avrdude -i 10000 -c usbtiny -p t13 -U flash:w:avrciczz.hex
avrdude -c usbtiny -p t13 -U hfuse:w:hfuse.hex
avrdude -c usbtiny -p t13 -U lfuse:w:lfuse.hex
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I don't know, if it doesn't cost a lot it's probably worth it, AFAIK STK500 is the official programmer. I saw the specs saying it can clock a chip, hopefully it can do that for the attiny13a.
What I can say is there's been some weird flakiness with my setup, with avrdude and usbtiny. Like there had been times where it just randomly fail. Run avrdude a second time and it's fine. Might fail 10 times in a row one day, or might go years at a time without a problem. Ultimately I don't know what was causing that, though.
What I can say is there's been some weird flakiness with my setup, with avrdude and usbtiny. Like there had been times where it just randomly fail. Run avrdude a second time and it's fine. Might fail 10 times in a row one day, or might go years at a time without a problem. Ultimately I don't know what was causing that, though.
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What region is your NES?
I recently programmed two with tlL866 and they worked (ntsc).
Wasn't aware about this issue.
I recently programmed two with tlL866 and they worked (ntsc).
Wasn't aware about this issue.
Last edited by olddb on Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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my nes had the cic with the broken pin, then i got a mario3 i used her cic in my nes. does this have to do with the problem?
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Oh yeah, that may be the problem. The lock (3193) and key (6113) chips are different. I'm not sure if revision matters, like 3193 vs 3193A. My understanding is that the lock chip (3193) also can work as lock or key, and early NES carts have that chip inside. Later releases have the 6113, and that part works as key only.
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even if original games are recognizing mario cic? it could still be thisMemblers wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:43 pmOh yeah, that may be the problem. The lock (3193) and key (6113) chips are different. I'm not sure if revision matters, like 3193 vs 3193A. My understanding is that the lock chip (3193) also can work as lock or key, and early NES carts have that chip inside. Later releases have the 6113, and that part works as key only.
I will open all the bodywork and check this
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If it is the CIC, all other pairings work except 6113 as lock and 3193 as key.
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opened the junk
here is the problem?
here is the problem?
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is there any avr code to create the original cic of the console?
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It's not really a lock but there's the NullCIC replacement. I'm not sure if it works with games like Nintendo World Championships though.