Pokun wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 3:24 pmIn fact I think the SNES was about the only time when the more powerful system won a console war.
N-Gage and GP32 don't count?
N-Gage No, doesn't count, its in the technically competition, but well within Basically none. We could argue the 3310 though, snake did have a lot of playtime, but not really.
N-Gage was half mobile phone, half handheld.
It was released worldwide (unlike the GP32) two years after the GBA and it seems 64 games were released in physical format.
It 100% counts as competition IMO.
Switch is apparently considered 8th-gen. And it beat the PS4's sales numbers the same way the SNES beat the MD - by staying on the market longer to make up for a late start.
If the Switch is the winner of the PS4 gen, the Game Boy is the winner of the NES gen
Pokun wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 3:24 pmAnd maybe the GBA, if it counts at all as it basically didn't have any competition in the portable market.
N-Gage and GP32 don't count?
N-Gage launched at $299,[1] which I doubt many parents could afford for a toy. GBA was outselling it 100 to 1 during launch month.
N-Gage was half mobile phone, half handheld, so I doubt it was meant to be sold as a toy.
PSP was also $100 more expensive than the NDS, but they were competition, right?
For me N-Gage was competition for the GBA like the Lynx was competition for the original Game Boy.
N-Gage No, doesn't count, its in the technically competition, but well within Basically none. We could argue the 3310 though, snake did have a lot of playtime, but not really.
N-Gage was half mobile phone, half handheld.
It was released worldwide (unlike the GP32) two years after the GBA and it seems 64 games were released in physical format.
It 100% counts as competition IMO.
I've actually played on one. Did it attempt to compete with the GBA yes, did it compete, not really. It was destroyed in the market so fast and was a flop, the GBA destroyed it. Hence Technically it was competition, but basically it wasn't it. Basically the GBA had 92%+ of the market share at the height of its reign. It's biggest competitor would have been the Gameboy Color. followed by the Wonderswan. maybe then the Neo Geo Pocket
Looking it up
the GP32 sold 30,000
the N-Gage sold 3 million
the Wonderswan sold 3.5 million
the GBA sold 81.51 million
Oziphantom wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:11 am
N-Gage No, doesn't count, its in the technically competition, but well within Basically none. We could argue the 3310 though, snake did have a lot of playtime, but not really.
N-Gage was half mobile phone, half handheld.
It was released worldwide (unlike the GP32) two years after the GBA and it seems 64 games were released in physical format.
It 100% counts as competition IMO.
I've actually played on one. Did it attempt to compete with the GBA yes, did it compete, not really. It was destroyed in the market so fast and was a flop, the GBA destroyed it. Hence Technically it was competition, but basically it wasn't it. Basically the GBA had 92%+ of the market share at the height of its reign. It's biggest competitor would have been the Gameboy Color. followed by the Wonderswan. maybe then the Neo Geo Pocket
Looking it up
the GP32 sold 30,000
the N-Gage sold 3 million
the Wonderswan sold 3.5 million
the GBA sold 81.51 million
The Lynx sold two million (one less than the N-Gage) and it competed with the Game Boy.
Failed or not, the N-Gage was competition for the GBA.
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