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Hello everyone,

Today, BotB.club organizer and proud host R3M and I established a forum on http://snestracker.club main website.

I was wondering, while I have established a forum hierarchy 1000% inspired from Renoise Forums, I was wondering if you guys had some ideas for forums that you would want present.

SNES Tracker is going to be a cross platform tool for both creating music for SNES, and also for transcribing music and debugging SPCs, ripping instruments and samples... The tool is not yet publically available [there is GITHUB and it is compile-able on OSX, but nobody but me knows how just yet], and currently only the transcriber/debugger/ripper is privately usable.. Having said that, let me know if you have some ideas for this forum in development.

If you have further ideas, consider leaving a message on the appropriate forum or tuning in to my blog or youtube channel ^_^ . All of that is accessible from http://snestracker.club The homepage always displays my latest video ^_^

The link is currently broken.

KungFuFurby wrote:The link is currently broken.

Fixed. Thanks for informing me!

Ohhhhhhhhhh snap!

I'm going to be on the forums soon, I'm starting to go through the videos. Looks really cool so far.

Let me know if there's anything that you'd need help with, ux design? testing on Windows? I'd be down for whatever. I've been trying to use stuff that is readily available (SNES GSS/Schism tracker to spc with snesmodlite) and have been making SNES music:

https://soundcloud.com/benjaminsantiago ... endo-music

as well as some videos somewhere between devblogs/tutorials that are mostly on SNES stuff right now:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 5harJynbaW


I have some ideas for an interface that might be cool, but honestly know that my programming skills are not my greatest strength not sure how long it would take to actually make a tracker on my own.

benjaminsantiago wrote:ux design? testing on Windows? I'd be down for whatever.

I have some ideas for an interface that might be cool, but honestly know that my programming skills are not my greatest strength not sure how long it would take to actually make a tracker on my own.

Hey man I'm digging your design skills. I watched all your youtube videos u linked, nice stuff. For your ideas on interface -- there are sections on SNES Tracker Forums where you can leave these ideas. I was planning on mostly being inspired from Renoise Tracker. Have you checked out renoise? It's ill. http://renoise.com/


But yeah, I got this
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I'm kinda thinking about kickstarting this project.. I'm low on funds and jobless :[ -- I need to get a job, bottom line, but damn, I really want to work on this full-time ^_^ hehe.

Do you follow Elysian Shadows on youtube? They started like...7 years ago just fucking around on this Dreamcast homebrew RPG and now they are getting their game kickstarted and have funding from Watermelon (who did Pier Solar), they are doing it full time, living the dream so to speak.

https://www.youtube.com/user/GyroVorbis

They're pretty inspiring. I would say try to make the videos more entertaining to non-programmers and just keep putting them out regularly/consistently and you'll get views.

I wasn't trying to pry/imply any lack of skills on your part, I'm just reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally interested in this type of a project.

You've seen this I'm assuming?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-VfFzOQRDk

I do like Renoise from what I remember, my beef with Schism Tracker is the weird keyboard shortcuts which I guess are normal if you use other trackers maybe? Maybe things can be remapped, but I just want to use spacebar to play/pause the song/pattern. SNES GSS still feels like a proof of concept.

benjaminsantiago wrote:
I wasn't trying to pry/imply any lack of skills on your part, I'm just reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally interested in this type of a project.

OK, no sweat.

You've seen this I'm assuming?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-VfFzOQRDk

Nope, I haven't seen that, that's cool, and unreleased?

yeah their tracker is not released. The video sounds like he's made other ones about the snes tracker but I haven't searched through all his videos. There's no indication about what percentage it is done, what features the program has (ie importing/editing samples), or if they really intend to release it in a public way.

They're involved in those pretty impressive demos that have been floating around, so it seems like they are less interested in making tools for homebrew dev (ie for games proper) if that makes sense.

I'm trying to figure out what forums they hang out in and maybe do some lurking.

Awesome! This is definitely a tool I'd be interested in. Up until now, I've been doing all of my SNES stuff in OpenMPT, but a dedicated program would be great.

I'm willing to help, but I need a couple recommendations first. If I were to write my own tracker and playback engine for NES and Super NES using SDL, which 2A03 and SPC700 emulator should I use? I don't want to just play .NSF and .SPC files because I need to communicate with the emulated machine in order to play instruments as the user is testing them.

tepples wrote:I'm willing to help, but I need a couple recommendations first. If I were to write my own tracker and playback engine for NES and Super NES using SDL, which 2A03 and SPC700 emulator should I use? I don't want to just play .NSF and .SPC files because I need to communicate with the emulated machine in order to play instruments as the user is testing them.

EDIT: I'm a little confused.. You want to help, but you want to write your own?? What?

Anyways, what you're looking for is exactly what I'm doing Tepples. In fact, STD is at a point where you can stop an SPC and then play any of the voices with a MIDI keyboard or PC keyboard, and adjust the ADSR envelopes real-time while you're playing the samples. To do this I'm using Blargg's APU emulator.

Here's a video showing how this comes together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMZHioeZk9Y

The Github repo has full source code, I've modified Blargg's APU emulator to open up its private API so that I can interface with the APU from my application. The source code is dirty

There's a test I have for that particular emulator.

Take one SPC set and attempt to play them: http://snesmusic.jukor.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=957

This will tell you if you've got a good solo SPC700 emulator. If playback fails, then my guess deals with wraparound problems from FF to 00 (or something else that was broken).

From my selection of SPC players, I was able to only play those SPC files on older SPC players (and mic's SPCPlayer that runs SPC files on the real SNES, which runs fine on emulators).

KungFuFurby wrote:There's a test I have for that particular emulator.

Take one SPC set and attempt to play them: http://snesmusic.jukor.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=957

This will tell you if you've got a good solo SPC700 emulator. If playback fails, then my guess deals with wraparound problems from FF to 00 (or something else that was broken).

From my selection of SPC players, I was able to only play those SPC files on older SPC players (and mic's SPCPlayer that runs SPC files on the real SNES, which runs fine on emulators).

Test Passed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on85T6b ... e=youtu.be

Bare in mind that although I am using newest APU on Blargg's site, he told me he has a newer one but hasn't yet linked me to it.

Excellent.