GBS Request

SmartOne · Post by **SmartOne** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:55 pm

What I mean is perfection is always the goal to shoot for, though rarely attained. If there's an improvement possible on the playback quality, it should always be made. Difficult optimizations aren't included when talking about perfect reproduction. A few extra bits here or there probably won't effect the quality, luckily.

Sorry for misinterpretting your post.

ugetab · Post by **ugetab** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:39 pm

Think about it this way: If I mess up, and don't notice, someone else will have to notice and tell me. If nobody listens to the GBS, that won't happen. With that in mind, it's easier to just concentrate on a single game for a while then go to the next. It comes down to the same thing as only caring about GBS files that people want to listen to.

I think the only thing you misunderstood about my statement was the source of my belief. The end result is pretty much as you'd expect.

Zepper · Post by **Zepper** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:07 am

...delete.me...

NotTheCommonDose · Post by **NotTheCommonDose** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:55 am

ugetab wrote:Now I remember why I never optimize. It causes more errors than the space savings are worth. Turns out one minor issue with the MM2 GBS was that 3(0x03) bytes of trailing 00s were trimmed from the file. Why the hell they were removed is beyond me, but by adding them back in, the first note of several songs now play. Who knows what else was affected by this tiny fraction of missing data. I did a little extra to help reduce data difference for the debugging, but the 3 null bytes had the only noticed effect. Definately not my first guess about the issue or the solution.

It may play a little better, but you can't overcome some issues if the emulator doesn't play things right to start with.

It's actually kind of nasty for a Mono GBS. It kept referencing the RST table for sound data, which doubled as coding.

Actually the problem is that the notes are held on certain channels. I know I probably sound annoying at this point. 8) It may hae Scott Worley's first .gbs

Well here are few games I thought had Interesting Music with bad instruments including Small Soldiers, Madden 98, Hunchback of Notredamn: Topsy turvy games, Summer Olympic Games, Mulan, Hercules, Sports Illustrated Golf Classic.

ugetab · Post by **ugetab** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:15 am

Fx3 wrote:your game of childhood, inside your heart and the music is wonderful for you... OR the requests happen because you're a collector? ;)

I have rips that could fall under either category. Why do you think I ripped Frommer's Travel Guide? It's because I have the cart, and wanted a GBS for the collection. Why eventually do a GG rip? It's because I enjoyed the Game Genie quite a bit, regardless of the quality of the sound. That big list Knurek posted near the start of the topic has been whittled down to something like 5 games. If I recall correctly, that's just from a favorites folder.

As for MM2, it needed an overhaul anyways to get it working more accurately. The tones I hear in NEZPlug++ sound equivalent to the GB Conversion/Game. If you're referencing some other issue, I don't know which. I make it play the same from BGB in the game and as a .GB converted GBS if I can, because that usually means any edit to the underlying mechanics of sound production will usually affect both the game and the .GB the same way.

Zepper · Post by **Zepper** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:25 pm

SmartOne · Post by **SmartOne** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:27 pm

If I didn't love the music, I wouldn't obsess over the GBSs so much.

Ugetab, is it possible at all or even for someone like me to edit the Pokemon Crystal battle tracks making different channels pan the way I like? Hex editing or something?

I don't understand how anyone could dislike the first two generations of Pokemon games' charming music. You can't deny the overall joy conveyed by the high and crystal clear instruments of the tracks. If you don't like joyful, happy, hopeful music, then something is wrong with you. Go listen to death metal. </rant>

ugetab · Post by **ugetab** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:33 pm

As a GBS/NSF/SPC ripper, I can make my own stuff. For other formats, I can't do a thing, so I don't mind doing certain rips just because someone wants it for their collection. People have filled unspoken PSF requests(Vandal Hearts 2), and many have worked on the VGM Genesis rips at length(which I grabbed all of), and someone else extracted the ADXs from the PS2 Tales of Symphonia that I'm listening to now. I can't download or get access to most of these games, and I can't write the software that plays them, but what I can do is a fair amount of rips for somewhat older systems, or at least help make it happen(I'm willing to make music changing codes for SNES games to help someone rip a complete set).

People are free to request even a fairly significant list of games, as long as they're not expecting immediate results. I took it upon myself to go through a list of Gamefaqs mono Gameboy RPGs just because RPGs can have decent music. It's not done, but it's started. It would be hypocritical to request something(even only occasionally), and not provide some of what I can rip on request.

Zepper · Post by **Zepper** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:35 pm

NotTheCommonDose · Post by **NotTheCommonDose** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:12 am

SmartOne wrote:If you don't like joyful, happy, hopeful music, then something is wrong with you. Go listen to death metal. </rant>

There are a lot of people who lack hope so they listen to death metal music.

SmartOne · Post by **SmartOne** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:57 pm

Fx3 wrote:Yes, this is the point, but I'm avoiding to go offtopic!

Learn English, and stop creating conflicts. I'm done.

And ugetab, where could I get said Tales of Symphonia ADXs?
Speaking of requesting PSF rips, Rogue Galaxy and Dark Cloud DESPERATELY need PSF2 rips. In case anyone is interested.

SmartOne · Post by **SmartOne** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:41 pm

Wow, I must've killed this thread or something.

tokumaru · Post by **tokumaru** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:01 am

NotTheCommonDose wrote:There are a lot of people who lack hope so they listen to death metal music.

You don't need to lack hope in order to like death metal!

And what's up with Fx3? Deleting every post like loopy did? People here can be really weird... Quietust banning himself, now these guys deleting their posts... what's up with that? Hopefully they won't delete useful posts.

Celius · Post by **Celius** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:14 pm

It was only the posts in this thread, it seems. I just think if you want to leave a site, just don't go on there anymore. You don't need to go banning yourself and deleting your posts. I don't see how people get SO emotional about NESdev... I mean, I'm all about NESdev, but I'm not gonna jump out of buildings because of it. Though attributes still make me want to kill myself

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It's funny that you should say people who lack hope listen to Death Metal. My brother could go on for hours with his rotten morals speech about how hope is just waiting to be let down, and he listens to nothing BUT Death Metal. But yeah, you don't have to be like that in order to like it. I like SOME Death Metal, but usually, it's like Coffee; I like it sweet, and not bitter. So usually I like melodic music that's not unpleasant, like Death Metal.

SmartOne · Post by **SmartOne** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:32 pm

I don't mean to sound so harsh, but my ideas and values are mine. If people don't like them, that's too bad.

I went off because I don't like when people butt into a productive discussion and cause conflicts over stupid things like "You're going off topic!" As long as the discussion is productive, who cares? It's not like little tangents here and there are getting in the way of the thread's topic. If you have something to say regarding a "GBS Request," say it! Everyone has equal power to mold the discussion around the information they know/want to discuss.