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What do you think of windows 10? Is it an improvement over windows 7? I'm considering taking the bait that keeps being foisted in my face. haha

Windows 10 is better than Win8*, unless you have a tablet, in which case they slightly broke the tablet UI.

I would say it's a step down from Win7, though.

They horribly broke file associations in Windows 10. At some point, Winamp ended up taking over .msc files for some reason, and Windows's safety features prevented me from associating them back to Microsoft Management Console. So yeah, go try running Computer Management, then Winamp opens instead. Had to use FileTypesMan to get things back to normal.

Anyway, Windows 10 makes the metro stuff look like it's not metro, you don't notice whether a program is Metro or not, until you notice that right clicking does absolutely nothing, then you can tell it's a metro app.

lidnariq wrote:Windows 10 is better than Win8*, unless you have a tablet, in which case they slightly broke the tablet UI.

Oh heaven forbid! I still seriously don't understand as to why the operating system that have for tablets needs to be the same as for PCs. I wouldn't even be surprised if the Xbox Two came with a copy of Windows on it.

I'm just curious, but does anyone here even have a Window's tablet? I still don't see the point... Why not just get a mini PC? Is it because you can't look like a jackass and walk around using it?

A tablet can mean several different things. For instance, a graphics tablet like a Wacom Cintiq.

Espozo wrote:I still seriously don't understand as to why the operating system that have for tablets needs to be the same as for PCs.

(Guessing)
So that tablets and PCs can run the same apps, in turn so that tablets can launch with a collection of usable apps, in turn so that manufacturers have an excuse to stop selling small laptops entirely in favor of higher-margin tablets.

I wouldn't even be surprised if the Xbox Two came with a copy of Windows on it.

Xbox and Xbox 360 ran essentially a reimplementation of part of Windows. But yes, I see the "One Windows" initiative leading to more Windows on the Xbox.

I'm just curious, but does anyone here even have a Window's tablet? I still don't see the point... Why not just get a mini PC?

Because mini PCs got discontinued at the end of 2012 in favor of Windows 8 (x86-64) tablets. So one has to buy a tablet with a detachable keyboard because that's all companies make anymore.

I'm pretty sure the code name for the next microsoft console is Deuce Box.

An improvement? Maybe. But improving a pile of shit isn't difficult. Piss poor OS I'll never use again if I can avoid it any way I can.

8.1 was better than 8 and 10 seems better than 8.1

However.. I'd still rather just use Debian and MATE desktop

Espozo wrote: I'm just curious, but does anyone here even have a Window's tablet? I still don't see the point... Why not just get a mini PC? Is it because you can't look like a jackass and walk around using it?

I have a little HP Stream 7 that I use for when I occasionally need to run a Windows program in a native environment (as opposed to using Wine or Parallels on my Mac). It's proven to be very handy for my SIO2PC adapter and for the rare moments when I need to quickly burn an EPROM.

Windows 10 is cool, but 7 still remains the best one. Never played 8 though.

Download the ISO (it is possible to do so from the MS site and it's legit), try it in a virtual machine and see for yourself.

Or you can install it over Win7, try it for one month and if you don't like it un-install it and your license will still be a win7 license. If you get over 1 month then it becomes a Win10 license.

The VM is maybe the most appropriate. Sooner or later you wont have any choice to switch to 10 anyway since the mainstream support ended this year and the extended one should be until 2020 (unless something happens like WinXP..).

I guess you would get used but the thing I hate the most is the new windows update that you don't have much control (and have now idea how big are the download or cannot pause it..) and some part of the configuration that are now Metro only, which causes that the "settings" app can only have one instance.. So it you want to edit 2 settings at the same time in the Settings app, well, unless I didn't find how to do it, you can't. Still is quite a pain.

Except for that, well, it's windows.

It still seems like Windows is the best platform for nes development. I haven't yet seen an NES emulator that had a complete, fleshed out GUI, AND was able to use vsync properly, on linux. It's always sheary or choppy. Plus, I'm not sure I've been able to use any debugging facilities on any emulator on linux when I've tried. I tried Wine once with a couple (as well as ones built natively for linux), but then I recall horrible sound lag issues. I know some folks here do use linux---so I'm just curious if it is possible to get around all these problems or if people just smugly put up with the problems just so they can be "non windows users." Haha. Then again last time I tried linux for nes dev was in 2012, maybe the situation has improved?

GradualGames wrote:It still seems like Windows is the best platform for nes development. I haven't yet seen an NES emulator that had a complete, fleshed out GUI, AND was able to use vsync properly, on linux. It's always sheary or choppy. Plus, I'm not sure I've been able to use any debugging facilities on any emulator on linux when I've tried. I tried Wine once with a couple (as well as ones built natively for linux), but then I recall horrible sound lag issues. I know some folks here do use linux---so I'm just curious if it is possible to get around all these problems or if people just smugly put up with the problems just so they can be "non windows users." Haha. Then again last time I tried linux for nes dev was in 2012, maybe the situation has improved?

Higan for emulation, don't know about debugging. I think byuu is working on a CLI debugger called Loki, but that is for the SNES.

GradualGames wrote:I tried Wine once with a couple (as well as ones built natively for linux), but then I recall horrible sound lag issues.

Not a problem I've ever had in doing that...

if people just smugly put up with the problems just so they can be "non windows users."

Oh, it's not smugness. It's wholesale loathing for the Windows UI.