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Not in exactly a polite manner, like I'm obviously trying to sustain.

Here are all 20 commandments:

1) I am the Lord your God, thou shalt not have strange Gods before me.
2) I am the Lord your God, thou shalt not have normal Gods before me.
3) Thou shalt not say thy Lord's name in vein.
4) Thou shalt not say thy Lord's name in artery.
5) Thou shalt not say thy Lord's name in capillary.
6) Thou shalt not say thy Lord's name in nerve endings.
8) Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods.
9) Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife.
10) Thou shalt not covet thy NEIGHBOR!
11) Thou shalt not bare false witness against thy neighbor.
12) Thou shalt not bare false breasts in front of thy neighbor.
13) Thou shalt not bare bottoms.
14) Thou shalt not witness bears.
15) Thou shalt not kill.
16) Thou shalt not steal.
17) Thou shalt not make movies that are orange and teal.
18) Honor thy Father and thy Mother.
19) Honor thy Aunt and thy Uncle.
20) Honor thy 3rd cousin 4 times removed.

I'm sure if this wasn't about religion, you wouldn't have had any problem with my writing style.

By the way, just out of curiosity: Which sentence exactly was so impolite again?

psycopathicteen wrote:Here are all 20 commandments

Meh. There is better Bible humor than this. Also, the whole "more than 10 commandments" joke falls flat because there are over 600 anyway. The 10 are just the introduction.

Can everybody maybe calm down a bit please? This kind of subject has the potential to get very ugly very fast. And it's not why we come here. I'd hate to see people making enemies of each other over something like this; it's pretty much exactly what the OP wanted...

So let me continue to lighten the mood with more fake commandments:

Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Thou shalt not commit childery.
Thou shalt not steal music.
Thou shalt not Steelix.

Any other guesses for the missing five commandments conjectured by Mel Brooks? Oh wait, someone paused it:

Thou shalt not pass. (Gas? Or the Go space to collect $200 in Monopoly?)
Thou shalt not make people laugh.
Thou shalt not buy. (for retail price?)
Thou shalt not stay. (or) Thou shalt not tolerate us. (or) Thou shalt not complain.
Thou shalt not break.

In fact, the noun form used in the Qur'an requires there to be at least three tablets.

93143 wrote: I'd hate to see people making enemies of each other over something like this

Oh please, I've been enemies with him since day 1.

He asked for an example:

As if they really believe that the Bible would suddenly become a book of higher science and that all the contradictions and errors and cruelties and other nonsense suddenly disappeared if the Bible was just translated correctly.

tepples wrote:Any other guesses for the missing five commandments conjectured by Mel Brooks? Oh

Man, I loved this joke so much when I was a kid! I could barely understand the movie, not knowing much about religion or history... And I haven't actually rewatched it as an adult, so this joke is pretty much all I remember, and it's still great!

I always thought religion was a fascinating topic for the same reason books are interesting to read; each religion has its own stories, important figures, friends and enemies, it's its own universe. What inspires me are the neat bits and bobs from various religions, some common, some obsolete.

But the thing is, being a game designer, you create worlds. You design the environment, inhabitants, physics, science, everything. It's interesting to hear about programmers who are religious, because programmers sometimes do the same stuff gods supposedly do. So always be sure to take a break on the seventh day.

That enemy chose to be evil because I gave him free will. What? Do you think I just programmed him to attack the hero who I also created? Why would I do such a thing?

Everyone knows all characters from a game just hang out at the bar together when the game's off.

Espozo wrote:He asked for an example:

As if they really believe that the Bible would suddenly become a book of higher science and that all the contradictions and errors and cruelties and other nonsense suddenly disappeared if the Bible was just translated correctly.

That's the statement that bothers you? Seriously? There is nothing insulting in this. Not a single thing.

Drag wrote:But the thing is, being a game designer, you create worlds. You design the environment, inhabitants, physics, science, everything. It's interesting to hear about programmers who are religious, because programmers sometimes do the same stuff gods supposedly do.

J. R. R. Tolkien called this tendency "subcreation". If we are created in God's image, our desire to create worlds follows from this.

psycopathicteen wrote:That enemy chose to be evil because I gave him free will. What? Do you think I just programmed him to attack the hero who I also created? Why would I do such a thing?

On the NES, you have to directly program an enemy to attack the player. On more powerful platforms, you may be able to give characters a capacity for motivations to change based on stimuli. Some Elder Scrolls games by Bethesda are believed to include this for some characters.

Drag wrote:Everyone knows all characters from a game just hang out at the bar together when the game's off.

"Bar"? Where do the child heroes go, like Ninten from Earthbound Beginnings or Red/Ash from Pokémon or child Link from several Zelda games or Donny from Haunted: Halloween '85?

And another argument about religion... Although I consider myself a Christian, I'm a bit loose when it comes to the rules, especially the stuff mentioned in the Bible. I do agree that a lot of people cherry-pick what to follow and what not to. And while that's not bad, if you're trying to ignore the outdated and generally wrong stuff, but some people like to use this to condemn stuff they don't like. A big problem is that a lot of people still believe that what's written in the Bible comes directly from God and that this is what He wants you to do, which is absolutely wrong. It was written by people, who sometimes had good reasons to make such strange rules (for example, not eating certain types of meat), but, at other times, decided to insert personal agendas like the whole us-them relationship that tepples described, which would create negative biases not only towards homosexuality, but also towards other religious and ethnic groups. The problem is that people often don't really question why these rules are there, in order to judge whether they would apply to them or not. A lot of people just follow them blindly, thinking that everything they're doing is correct.

Also, while it's easy to figure out why most of the 10 commandments are the way they are, I could never understand "Do not say the Lord's name in vein". Why? What would happen if I did? I can understand if I use it in some kind of offensive manner and that offends other Christians, but it seems that this rule applies to just saying God's name with no real reason. Why is that bad? Or does this just stem from the fact that a lot of the stuff in the Bible is being taken too literally.

I hope I don't start another debate because of this. I hate it when people fight over stuff like that.

tepples wrote: This passage lists commandments in the Mosaic law. But the Mosaic law is obsolete in Christianity. Many Christians reconcile this obsolete status with Paul's condemnation of male homosexual contact by claiming that only those Old Testament sins reiterated in the New Testament are still sins under grace.

If we're considering Paul an unquestionable authority...consider these commands from Paul...

If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off;
...
women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission

I don't know, I've seen plenty of women in church 1.talking, and 2.without a head cover.

So, we can cherry-pick from the new testament too, I suppose.


Also, Jesus himself was very clear about divorce, yet something like 25-30% of Christians get divorces. Not so much in Catholic circles, but this isn't really a discussion on branches of Christianity.

I guess my point is. We're all sinners. Why go out of your (not specifically referring to anyone personally) way to condemn specific groups of sinners.

DRW wrote:

Espozo wrote:He asked for an example:

As if they really believe that the Bible would suddenly become a book of higher science and that all the contradictions and errors and cruelties and other nonsense suddenly disappeared if the Bible was just translated correctly.

That's the statement that bothers you? Seriously? There is nothing insulting in this. Not a single thing.

What I don't appreciate, is you grouping everyone who believes in some sort of religion as a bunch of uneducated losers. The reason I believe in any sort of religion is that there's really no explanation for why life even exists. I'd be lying if I said the prospect of living forever didn't help, which is one reason I say I don't consider myself a big Christian, if there's even such a thing, even though you seem to think I am. Me being upset with you doesn't really directly have to do with religion, but rather you seeming to believe that people who believe in Christianity are clueless and arrogant, (so I fall into that category) like you're all high and mighty or something. ironically, it's usually the other way arround.