dragonboy has never started a flame war in his life

[Drew Sebastino]

About 7 years ago I chose to represent myself online using my real name to better keep electronic communication and expressions in check.

So... Do you look like an anime girl on a blueprint too?

[nitro2k01]

About 7 years ago I chose to represent myself online using my real name to better keep electronic communication and expressions in check.

So... Do you look like an anime girl on a blueprint too?

Blueprint? That's a silk screen on top of a solder mask on a printed circuit board. And yes, I can confirm that Mike J Moffitt consists solely of electronics!

[darryl.revok]

The only people on here who've mentioned "dragonboy" was stef and fireball dragon, but what I'm really pissed out about is this:

http://nintendoage.com/forum/messagevie ... did=165479

A nested <import other forum drama>. I've never seen this technique at play.

Is this thread the genesis of this argument? http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=viewthread ... 40#p204740

I read through it and I think dragonboy is the first one to insult and turn the conversation away from technical discussion. smkdan attempts to diffuse the situation and the insults from dragonboy escalate.

It's not so much I'm angry at smkdan. It's mostly the fact that he has never suffered any real consequences for it, and I had to suffer all the consequences for him.

It doesn't appear to me that anything he said was actionable and that dragonboy was detracting from productive conversation.

Even a passionate debate about a topic is usually fine for most people as long as the debate doesn't become about the people involved themselves. But the majority of forum goers would probably find that receiving insults in the middle of a technical debate is inhibitive to enjoyable online communication.

I don't know though if this reputation issue is near as large of a problem as you perceive it to be. Both on NA and here, you started the thread, and most members seem to have been oblivious to the entire situation until it was brought up. (myself included) Until the same offending behaviors are repeated on another forum, most people would prefer not to think about, or even know about prior incidents. I'm getting the impression that these events are really only important to you, on smwcentral, NA, and here. Learn from mistakes, move on and move forward, building your character as you go.

[psycopathicteen]

Something that I didn't notice till afterwards was that one of smkdan's posts was edited much later on.

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[tepples]

So the solution is to use forum software that maintains revision history for each post.

[psycopathicteen]

How do I do that?

[Drew Sebastino]

You don't do anything, he was just acting dumb in respond to your earlier post.

[psycopathicteen]

I thought he was talking about something like WayBackMachine.

http://web.archive.org/web/200903051509 ... ntral.net/

It's too bad WayBackMachine doesn't have a copy of the actually thread, although you can see a fake link to it inside the fake "ROM hacking" subforum.

[tepples]

It's something that only a forum administrator can do. But I know MediaWiki keeps revision history, as does Stack Exchange, and if those can, so can an extension to forum software. I can't tell what forum software SMWCentral uses; it doesn't appear to be phpBB. But if you can figure it out, then going forward, you could learn the language, learn the codebase, write an extension, and suggest it to SMWCentral as a way of preventing things like this from happening again.

As a moderator here, I too have run into problems related to lack of revision history functionality.

[darryl.revok]

Something that I didn't notice till afterwards was that one of smkdan's posts was edited much later on.

Okay, he could have modified the post. Let's say that without an archive of changes, the debate is hearsay and we should call it a wash, and not judge your character by it. That sounds fair.

Now, if users here and on NA were not even aware of the situation or of a prior online handle that you used, then how does this become a problem worth addressing?

I'm legitimately trying to help by giving you an honest assessment of the situation. This is what I'm seeing:

1) You're tired of people bringing up dragonboy posts.
2) The people bringing up dragonboy posts aren't here.
3) The really upsetting conversation is a thread on NA.
4) Looking at the thread, Aaendi is the one who brought up a dragonboy post in the OP.
5) This thread may have been edited to make dragonboy look bad, and as it stands, does him no favors. dragonboy does seem childish in those posts.
6) After posting the link, Aaendi's comments begin with attacks on smkdan from out of the blue.
7) Making a thread for the purpose of launching a personal attack is likely to seem childish and offensive, and is a bannable offense on most forums.
8) After forum users showed disapproval of the cross-forum flame war, Aaendi resorts to name calling.
9) Thread lock is prompt and deserved.


If you want to correct a reputation, I believe the first step would be learning to see fault in your own actions and correcting them. This goes for you, me, anybody. If we're regarded as behaving a certain way then it's likely because we have behaved that way.

When a certain ghost rolled into town, trying to import drama from other forums, people here collectively pushed that sort of behavior out. The NA thread looks like similar behavior.

My most straightforward advice would be to leave previous drama behind. Most of us didn't know about it, and now that we do, we still don't care. If you talk about games and bring something to the table, that's how people will see you. And in the future, try not to resort to insults because it severely degrades the credibility of your argument.

[tepples]

Code: Select all

$ python3
>>> import drama
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
ImportError: No module named 'drama'

Don't import drama.