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Super Mario Bros. 2 (J) on a cart

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:21 am
by downloader
Can anyone help me out?
I want this game on eeproms and on a cart.

I heard Mario 2 (US) is a good donor cart for it but I don't know.
Can anyone provide me a how-to get it from rom to cartridge?
I can solder but I need info on:
- What eeproms I must use
- What donorcart I can use
- How to get the Eeproms on the board so I can play it. (what rewiring needs to be done and such (prefer with photo's)

I can provide the rom I'm gonna use. (i believe it's a mapper 142)

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:35 pm
by 85cocoa
Off the top of my head, what I have heard is: If you want to make a reproduction cart of SMB2j, use Loopy's MMC3 hack, not a pirate version.

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:37 am
by downloader
Ok did a search on Google for it and found it (first or second hit)

Now all I need are the instructions on howto make the cart (rewiring, what eeproms to use, etc etc)
I prefer a guide with photo's and such (step by step)

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:15 am
by Memblers
http://nesdev.com/NES%20EPROM%20Conversions.txt
I guess it'd be the mapper #4 directions on there (TKROM/TSROM). No photos though.

I don't know what the ROM sizes are for that hack. Check here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPROM

Generally you can use a larger ROM, and duplicate the code on the chip as needed.

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:21 am
by downloader
ok thanks.
this should do it.
Now gonna search for the eeproms.
I really want this!

What about the rest of the pins?
Sorry to sound like a retard but I'm really nw to this.
I have to get an EEprom socket and get that on the mobo, right?
please.....step by step

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:47 pm
by Memblers
If you want it to fit back in the cartridge case, don't use sockets. Otherwise, you'd have to cut holes in the case or just not use one.

I'm not sure what steps there are to say that aren't covered in that doc. Except when it says solder X to X, use some wire.

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:00 pm
by downloader
ok thanx.
Now I know enough.
Gonna do this soon!

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:18 pm
by drk421
Yeah, I did this using loopy's patch to MMC3.
Works great!

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:34 am
by rbudrick
So how is loopy's patch different play-wise from the pirate? I've got a pirate of SMB2j that allows for a stage select depending on what direction you press when you hit start.

-Rob

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:09 am
by loopy

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:29 pm
by rbudrick
As far as I know, it's exactly the same as the original, except for missing FDS sound in the endgame music.

And no load screens, I take it... :)

-Rob

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:55 pm
by downloader
rbudrick wrote:So how is loopy's patch different play-wise from the pirate? I've got a pirate of SMB2j that allows for a stage select depending on what direction you press when you hit start.

-Rob
well what about the fact that it's an MMC3 version?
a mapper 4.
a version that can be put on eeproms and on casette's easier then the kaiser pirate

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:52 am
by downloader
Dudes, I just heard Eprom programmers are dissapearing here in holland.
They said I should use 29xxx type flashroms.
But will the pinouts be the same?
If not I might have to face I will never make a nescart with Mario (J) on it.

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:32 pm
by Memblers
downloader wrote: Dudes, I just heard Eprom programmers are dissapearing here in holland.
They said I should use 29xxx type flashroms.
But will the pinouts be the same?
If not I might have to face I will never make a nescart with Mario (J) on it.
The pinout is different, but not by much. There's the write line, and an address line or 2 has moved around.

Don't worry though, EPROMs aren't going away anytime soon. It's already 30-year-old tech. I imagine noone hardly buys new windowed ones (they're damn expensive), but I'm sure one-time-programmable (OTP) ones will be around for a long time. Any good universal programmer will support them.

I don't know about suppliers in Holland, but all these chips are made overseas anyways. heheh.

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:22 am
by drk421
Buy used EPROMs, they're dirt cheap, no one wants them.
You can find them in old computer boards in junk piles.

I bought mine surplus from a guy in china.