Why are some games so-called incredibly hard ?

[Bregalad]

I mean I cannot remember how many times I read on the net that some NES games are hard and almost impossible, while I consider myself not a very good gamer, especially when it comes to action games, I can still laugh at people saying those games are incredibly hard.

Mega Man : Everyone say it is very hard for some reason, but I finished the game many times myself. Maybe its in fact one of the only Mega Man games I finished many times without cheating. Everyone say those gut's man platforms make the game impossible. But once you undersand how they work, I can almost pass them with the eyes closed. I mean come on this doesn't make the game hard. And all bosses are very easy, depsite the enemy in the room straight before them.

Mega Man 2 : Everyone complains about the Quick Man's lazers to be hard. Maybe it's impressive the first time, but once you get the trick they are easy, and this game is even easier than MM1 is (at least for me who isn't a good action gamer). Why people keep saying it is hard ? On the other hand MM3 is a lot more difficult and nobody seem to mention it. Even MM4-6 are more difficult that this.

Contra : Contra IS hard the first time, but with practice even I could finish the game, and that without using the 30 lives code everyone has been using a lot. Once you get all tricks and all, the game isn't that hard any longer.

Battletoads : Okay, this game IS hard, but a lot people complain about level 3's bike, while I say they are hard the first time, once you get the trick, you can pass them without much problem, exept maybe the final section which get incredibly fast, but still, passing it isn't that hard. The Ice cavern after it is also mentionned to be hard The game gets insane, but later than most people seem to menition (from level 6 on I think).

On the other hand there is many games I consider myself incredibly hard (SMB, SMB3, MM3 and +, Donkey Kong Country, Fire Emblem on the GBA) and that most people mention having finished it just like it would be a normal task. Am I the only bothered by this ?

[atari2600a]

Most games just need some time & practice. You know that whole Metroid wall-jump thing? *mastered*

[peppers]

we all have verious skill due to the way are mind in paticular works and what we had the most practase in I find smb 1-sunshine onley somewhat difficult mainley because I played a lot of them

now there is one "game" witch is very very hard and its

Luigi and the Christmas Quest (Final) (SMB1 Hack).zip

I do not know if its even possiple to beat

also you must take into consideration that a lot of people on the internet like to pretend they are the hottest shit ever and that insert popular game here is no challinge at all

[NotTheCommonDose]

This is incredibly hard
http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=9qxjai10oy
If anyone has info on were to get the hack I would be interested.

[gannon]

If anyone has info on were to get the hack I would be interested.

I think I put it on my powerpak, not sure. Name is Super Mario Forever IIRC

[NotTheCommonDose]

Where is it obtainable? it looks impossible from the funny video.

[tepples]

Have you got 300 lines on Nintendo Tetris? Now that's incredibly hard.

[NotTheCommonDose]

Games that cause blinking on the NES are hard.

[Zepper]

Have you got 300 lines on Nintendo Tetris? Now that's incredibly hard.

Yes.. and perhaps much more than that while playing Tengen Tetris.

[Bregalad]

Most games just need some time & practice. You know that whole Metroid wall-jump thing? *mastered*

Definitely, but you lost your time to master one of the worst games ever released on the console, and one of the game who have the worst control of all times (only predecessed by AD&D Heroes of the Lance, also for the NES).
I don't mind games that are hard because of hard controls, but games that actually are hard. I found SMB (not hack the original one) very hard, while most people seems to talk like they master it. On the other hand I found Mega Man 1 easy and most people say it's impossible. Maybe it's just one quesion of habbit, I play Mega Man games much more often than SMB games for mainly personal tastes and the results show in practice.

[never-obsolete]

narc was a hard game. i don't think i ever got past the 2nd or 3rd level.

castlevania is another one that takes some practice. simon's quest and dracula's curse were alot easier for me.

Contra : Contra IS hard the first time...

Super C gets rugged in the last couple levels. i especially hated the one where you gotta climb your way up the floating rock platforms.

Most games just need some time & practice. You know that whole Metroid wall-jump thing? *mastered*

i didn't know you could wall jump in metroid.

[tepples]

Have you got 300 lines on Nintendo Tetris? Now that's incredibly hard.

Yes

Screenshot or it didn't happen. (Hint: In Tetris, 290 lines is when the gravity, or downward speed, becomes six times as fast as the DAS, or sideways speed.) But if you really are that good at Tetris, we at the TC forum want you.

and perhaps much more than that while playing Tengen Tetris.

Tetяis speeds up much more slowly than Tetris does, and according to Ed Logg, programmer of Tetяis, apparently this was intentional.

But can you beat Tetris without being able to see the blocks?

And can you beat the 10 foot songs on Dance Dance Revolution?

[peppers]

Most games just need some time & practice. You know that whole Metroid wall-jump thing? *mastered*

Definitely, but you lost your time to master one of the worst games ever released on the console, and one of the game who have the worst control of all times

I always liked the controlls of nes metroid they do not seem difficult of clumsy to me.

The controls I hate is how Nintendo maps all their legacy controls wrong

For example on the DS GBA A should be the actual B button and B should be Y, The same goes for the “classic” remote witch is only half good for SNES games

Dose anyboady else hate this am much as me?

[never-obsolete]

The controls I hate is how Nintendo maps all their legacy controls wrong
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Dose anyboady else hate this am much as me?

mario kart 64 on the vc pisses me off for that reason.

[atari2600a]

i didn't know you could wall jump in metroid.

Hmm...maybe I'm thinking of Super Metroid...

Oh, & I understand the difficulty of Metroid, especially compared to the FDS version, but I wouldn't call it *bad*...