Should the nesdev main page be part of the wiki?

tokumaru · Post by **tokumaru** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:50 am

The NESDEV logo looks terrible though. As a matter of fact the adaptation that was made for the Wiki logo does too.

A while ago I was working on a high-resolution version of the logo, with a transparent background, so it would look much better. I know it would kill the effect of it looking like something displayed by the NES, and it isn't actual 3D, it's just a 2D image drawn over the old one to look 3D.

This is as far as I got:

Then I started again because I wanted a higher resolution (this is 12% of the original) and I wanted to include the url, but I didn't finish it:

What do you guys think? Should I go on and finish this? Or does anyone who can model actual 3D want to give it a try?

EDIT: BTW, would the address "nesdev.com" redirect to the new page or would the address change?

Banshaku · Post by **Banshaku** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:50 pm

The address would change because of account settings on parodius. In that case, it would redirect to wiki.nesdev.com/w/index.php/Nesdev.

So just the nesdev name would be enough.

As for the wiki one, I just took the original, fixed a few fuzzy pixel and added it. That was a quick hack just to make it obvious that it was related with the original NesDev site. For the current prototype page, Durda dan converted the original logo with a transparent background without adjusting the fuzzy pixel so if you check the page, you would have an idea what I did for the wiki logo to make it better.

I will try your logo to see how it comes out when I scale it down. It's a prototype page after all.

Banshaku · Post by **Banshaku** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:25 pm

I tested the logo and tried to apply a specific CSS on a DIV. The page almost look like the original but I would like to be able to apply other style on specific element on that page only. I still need to do more research since I don't want all the wiki to be affected but just the pages for the nesdev site.

edit:

Basically I'm trying to "emulate" the style. I know, bad pun.. Too tired I guess!

MetalSlime · Post by **MetalSlime** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:52 pm

Am I the only one that hates the logo and thinks its ugly? If we're doing an overhaul, might as well go the full 9 and get a new logo too.

tokumaru · Post by **tokumaru** » Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:10 pm

As much as I'd love to see what the artists around here would come up with, the problem with replacing the logo entirely is that it's already a big part of the identity of this place.

I guess it may be OK to tweak it, but I feel that an easily recognizable part of it should remain, be it the color scheme, the font, whatever, but the old logo should live on.

Banshaku · Post by **Banshaku** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:32 am

I agree with Tokumaru on this part. It may not be the greatest logo put it's part of the identity of the site, so is the color scheme. We must keep some of it in some way.

Bregalad · Post by **Bregalad** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:09 am

MetalSlime wrote:Am I the only one that hates the logo and thinks its ugly? If we're doing an overhaul, might as well go the full 9 and get a new logo too.

Yeah I somewhat agree with that, altough I don't really care about the logo.

Rid · Post by **Rid** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:59 am

I don't know for the logo, but I think the metroid style separator has to be kept

koitsu · Post by **koitsu** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:30 am

I like tokumaru's logo -- specifically the first one (don't like the 2nd one at all, especially the site text).

If there are server changes which need to happen to make things easier for everyone, let me know and I'll do what needs to be done.

cpow · Post by **cpow** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:58 pm

MetalSlime wrote:Am I the only one that hates the logo and thinks its ugly? If we're doing an overhaul, might as well go the full 9 and get a new logo too.

No, I hate it too. Doesn't look like anything even REMOTELY NES related. I realize there's probably trademark issues abounding WRT using specific iconography but yeesh...put SOME creativity into it.

I am one to talk, though...I haven't put much creativity into my own logo or icon.

tokumaru · Post by **tokumaru** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:47 pm

koitsu wrote:(don't like the 2nd one at all, especially the site text)

I was supposed to connect the background to the foreground like in the first pic, but I never did it, that's why I said it's incomplete. =)

Banshaku · Post by **Banshaku** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:34 pm

If you want to see the result, it's already in the wiki page. Maybe what I would like to add is just the extra text under (red one) with the same font. It maybe not much but it still a part of the logo and it's identity.

The second one make less sense once the site will be on the wiki since the address wont be parodius anymore but http://wiki.nesdev.com/w/index.php/Nesdev .

Later I can update the wiki logo with this one too if it get approved and I think it should.

As for the style of the page, I tried to do some CSS testing with the same color of the original page but for now Cheesemeister didn't agree with it and removed it. So my question is: should the page in the wiki still look like the original one for color (background, font etc) or it should definitively move to the wiki color style?

tokumaru · Post by **tokumaru** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:53 pm

Banshaku wrote:http://wiki.nesdev.com/w/index.php/Nesdev

That's pretty ugly, nobody will remember such an address. If the change is made, at least the old address should redirect there.

Banshaku · Post by **Banshaku** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:58 pm

Of course, the old address will redirect there. In the thread it was mentioned earlier. This is done with an .httaccess file.

Post by **tepples** » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:59 pm

While I'm on a GIMP kick, here's another entry:

Right now it looks better on a light background, but I could change the AA on the "NESDEV" text for a dark background.