Can NES (NTSC version) run on modern TV?

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Can NES (NTSC version) run on modern TV?

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Hi,

I am planning to buy an NTSC NES conosle from ebay. Will it work on my TV which I guess is based on PAL standards?

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For me the video works fine through RF, but not the sound - it's all buzzy and I have to mute it. The reason is that it's modulated at a slightly higher frequency carrier I think, and too bad it seems they hard-cored the demodulation to european frequencies (but I might be wrong about what went wrong).
Also I bought a top-loader, if you buy a front-loader you could always use A/V jacks and get sound.

PS : Make sure your TV supports NTSC color encoding tough (I guess all recent TV does).
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Re: Can NES (NTSC version) run on modern TV?

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Nadia wrote:Hi,

I am planning to buy an NTSC NES conosle from ebay. Will it work on my TV which I guess is based on PAL standards?

Cheers
What brand and model is your TV?
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My 40" Samsung LCD doesn't like the low resolution from the NES, so beware..
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oRBIT2002 wrote:My 40" Samsung LCD doesn't like the low resolution from the NES, so beware..
I think it doesn't like the fact that the NES outputs a non-interlaced signal. Very sloppy engineering in modern TV chipsets. Better start collecting and hoarding old CRT sets, to keep the gaming experience alive until i'm 80. ;)
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(TV system for this post: NTSC U/C)

With Wii using 240p video for Virtual Console when set to 480i mode, and with dedicated consoles still using 240p because it's cheaper than 480i, I guess HDTV makers still have to consider 240p for a while. My 32" Vizio works with 240p video through composite or S-Video, but not component. My Aiptek camcorder can function as a digital video recorder, but it doesn't work with my NES (video on display slows down and eventually overflows the decode buffer), while my Philips DVD recorder works fine.
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Post by Hamburgler »

Using a line-doubler like an Xrgb to convert 240p to 480p helps a lot, as does using an external scaler like the DVDO Edge. It has supported 240p for a while now.

I never imagined the CRT TV would become obsolete before the game systems themselves. We live in strange times. :)
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Maybe it's the hugeness of CRTs. I know I'd love to ditch my 27 inch CRT TV and not have to lug it around the next time I move, but no way I'm going to give up its advantages. For the PC, though, CRT is gone for good.
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The NES should work on most modern TVs as they should all be multi system now so no PAL/NTSC issues. But beware that anything less than 480p that isn't TV or a movie will look pretty bad. TV makers I think only consider 480i for people watching TV/Movie, not low resolution computer devices.

I keep around a large and heavy 19" Sony PVM RGB monitor for this reason. It's way better than playing on a HDTV for your older stuff.
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You won't be using a Zapper with any modern TV, that's for sure.
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My NES works fine on my HD tv. You should turn the sharpness all the way down though.

My audio is buzzy too, but I think that's because there's crosstalk between the video signal and the audio signal. I use the yellow/red ports on the side of my NES, and if I play with the cable a bit, I can reduce the buzzing.
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Post by drk421 »

Got a 42" 720p Panasonic Plasma and it displays everything I can throw at it.
Composite, Component, S-video all in 240p, no problem.

Was made in 2009.

I think the higher end sets seem to have better circuitry than the cheaper models.

Oh,
It also seems to handle NTSC @ 50hz, and a PAL encoded signal too from my PAL C64.
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Re: Can NES (NTSC version) run on modern TV?

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6502freak wrote:
Nadia wrote:Hi,

I am planning to buy an NTSC NES conosle from ebay. Will it work on my TV which I guess is based on PAL standards?

Cheers
What brand and model is your TV?
Its a SONY Bravio(LCD).
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Memblers wrote:You won't be using a Zapper with any modern TV, that's for sure.
I noticed this too.
Does the zapper work on an LCD screen?
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Post by MottZilla »

No, the LightGun needs light to be emitted into the lens located in the barrel. CRT's operate in a way that does this. LCDs don't. Also many Lightguns actually use the way in which a CRT redraws the screen to help calculate position of the shot. NES doesn't but it still requires the display light to be beamed into the lens.
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