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[Possible spam] How to print Wikipedia articles

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:22 am
by shamoly
How to print Wikipedia articles that have math notations so article is clearly readable? I noticed a while back that Wikipedia must have changed its interface. Now, I can't print clearly any article with math notations. The equations and other math symbols get completely distorted in a slanted fashion. The article becomes so unclear as to be unreadable. If you want to learn about math, but you can't clearly read the formulas you are stuck.
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[Well at least you could give examples of the articles you're trying to print. --MOD]

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:53 am
by koitsu
What's this got to do with NES music? :)

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:00 am
by tokumaru
koitsu wrote:What's this got to do with NES music? :)
Maybe he's trying to print an APU-related page... =)

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:16 am
by Dwedit
I greatly dislike this board's approach to spam. Where's the swift ban & delete action?

I mean you can google the exact phrasing of this guy's question and see it on on many sites.

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:25 am
by koitsu
Dwedit wrote:I greatly dislike this board's approach to spam. Where's the swift ban & delete action?

I mean you can google the exact phrasing of this guy's question and see it on on many sites.
Should the moderators begin Googling everything that comes across the board? Maybe I should Google "I greatly dislike this board's approach to spam......"? Heh. :-) Besides, there's a nesdev forum spam quote that a bunch of us on IRC have an alias for because it's so funny:

"8D Thats the way it is done do you not think so."

I don't know what else you expect. Most of the spam that comes across here now **is not** automated. It's a manual process involving human beings who are hired in foreign (cheap) countries like India to create accounts, post, etc... We block their netblocks as they appear on the forum, but these businesses have a lot of netblocks all over the place.

By the way, things go on in the Moderators forum here semi-often. tepples and I tend to be fairly quick about catching spammers/abusers. In fact just recently I had to firewall off a portion of China. *shrug*

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:29 pm
by Banshaku
On the wiki, I have a zero tolerance to spam, meaning I don't give the benefit of the doubt that maybe that person, someday, could post something good. If I could I would even remove the history but I don't know any option to do it yet. It may be drastic but we're a small community and I try to keep the content clean.

When I saw this message yesterday, it was pretty obvious: ask about print math thing of media wiki inside nes music.

Why would someone post on the nesdev forum, a very niche place about that on his first mail? The person is not a regular yet. That's pretty obvious it's a bot.

Then yesterday during the night you have that human spammer that wrote messages were the content value was similar to "yeah, I understand what you mean" with that Philippine call center link. Why the mails were not removed? Why only the links? The mails had no value and that person will never come back again, it's quite obvious.

If people are affraid to remove those mail or ban people because maybe, someday, that person will do some good then "let me be your spam moderator tyrant". Then when there will be a false positive you can blame me ;)

edit:

For the history removal, I found that new version of media wiki contain an option called "DeleteRevision". I activated it and was able to remove to the public the spammed content.

Now if I could find an option that only a certain group of users can add external links.. we could remove that annoying captcha. Keep on searching..

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:59 am
by Karachi123
One option is to take a snapshot of the page and then print it.

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:55 pm
by dr_sloppy
koitsu wrote:Most of the spam that comes across here now **is not** automated. It's a manual process involving human beings who are hired in foreign (cheap) countries like India to create accounts, post, etc...
Why would anyone pay people to spam seemingly random Internet forums? I really fail to see how anyone can gain anything out of it. :|

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:02 pm
by tepples
dr_sloppy wrote:Why would anyone pay people to spam seemingly random Internet forums?
For the PageRank boost. That's why I neutralized the links in the first post, so that the spammer doesn't get any PageRank from nesdev.com.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:04 am
by koitsu
dr_sloppy wrote:
koitsu wrote:Most of the spam that comes across here now **is not** automated. It's a manual process involving human beings who are hired in foreign (cheap) countries like India to create accounts, post, etc...
Why would anyone pay people to spam seemingly random Internet forums? I really fail to see how anyone can gain anything out of it. :|
Likewise I fail to see how anyone can gain anything out of mass distribution of spam mail (electronic or unsolicited snail mail ads). But here's the kicker: people DO occasionally read the mails + click the links and buy something. I realise it's difficult to understand/accept -- but you have to remember that the majority of the Internet and people don't think like engineers/technical folks.

Let's say a company in India is creating accounts on their own behalf -- the goal being to create accounts manually (to get past captchas, etc.) and then turn around and sell those account credentials (login/pass) to a highest bidder (usually a spammer). The winner then goes and uses the account to post spam URLs, etc. -- which someone will eventually accidentally or intentionally click.

The biggest problem I have with this whole "business" is that it's a combination of sleaze and laziness. It's a lot more effective and rewarding (personally and economically) to get an actual job working for someone doing something. For example, Parodius is a hobby of mine -- I spend quite a bit of money (US$600/month, soon to be $700) to keep it up and running -- but I have a day (night) job that provides me with income to pay for it. I work, therefore I get paid. Instead, these other dudes think "How can I make money off this, have it pay for itself, and allow me to stop working for the man?" which is how/when they start turning to shady/sleazy business tactics.

Capitalism is a fricking addiction, I swear. It's like somehow making money or involving oneself with money means turning off one's morals. *sigh*

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:58 am
by Bregalad
koitsu wrote: Likewise I fail to see how anyone can gain anything out of mass distribution of spam mail (electronic or unsolicited snail mail ads). But here's the kicker: people DO occasionally read the mails + click the links and buy something. I realise it's difficult to understand/accept -- but you have to remember that the majority of the Internet and people don't think like engineers/technical folks.
Sure, but any random people would quickly notice that it's ridiculous it wins at lottery 100 times a day without playing any lottery.