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original or a fake?
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:53 am
by basitsch
Hello!
I am still a novice in the field of NES games. But I have now received an offer to buy a rare NES game. I would like to make sure that this is not fake. For this reason, the seller has given me pictures of the board. I would like to hear your views on whether it is an original or a fake. Here are the pictures:
Thanks in advance!
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:00 am
by blargg
Looks like all the NES boards I've seen. What sort of fakery are you concerned about? If you don't trust the seller, then him linking you to pictures of a NES board doesn't tell you anything about what he would actually send you.
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:30 am
by basitsch
As I said, I do not know exactly what I have to looking for. So I thought, I'll ask the experts
I will be allowed to see the game before buying. But if there already is a doubt, I could have saved myself the effort.
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:11 am
by 3gengames
Looks real to me, unless pirates and reproer's are going out of their way to get MASK ROM's.
If it's a rare game, I'd be more worried about the label being a reprint or not.
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:16 am
by basitsch
Yes, it's very rare. I will request some pictures from the complete module and the label.
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:39 am
by jpx72
Check
BootGods databasefor the PCB scan to compare...
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:32 am
by ibeenew2
Label is much more important. PAL Stadium Events isn't worth nearly as much as NTSC Stadium Events.
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:09 am
by basitsch
I thought that the 6113 chip on the left side is an american lockout chip. Is this true? In that case the modul must be NTSC!?
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:37 am
by 3gengames
Looks like a real stadium events board. Like I said, the label may have been replaced check that out the most. Other then that you should be safe.
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:01 am
by basitsch
Here is a picture from the cartridge:
I compared it with the one from BootGods DB. They seem to be identic.
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:25 am
by Memblers
65024U wrote:Looks real to me, unless pirates and reproer's are going out of their way to get MASK ROM's.
I guess really all they would need is a way to print onto the ICs, because I doubt anyone can tell the difference between a plastic EPROM and plastic MaskROM (without removing the plastic..). Pretty unlikely to happen though, unless this things start showing up in quantity.
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:36 pm
by 3gengames
Edited because it is now obviously fake. I feel stupid for not seeing that earlier. -.-
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:16 pm
by BootGod
Yeah the pictures look legit to me too, mainly for reasons already mentioned: soldering is very clean, doesn't look reworked, and it would be difficult (or cost prohibitive, at least) to fake the mask ROMs. The 6113 in there with an 8811 datecode is a little surprising, that would seem to suggest there was an additional mfg run(s) of the game. The date still makes sense though, it's still well before the release of World Class Track Meet.
FYI, The SE cart in the DB isn't mine, the hash was verified by one of the lost levels guys and the scans are compliments of NintendoAge. I don't like to kludge things into the DB like that, but that's one cart I'm not buying!

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:26 pm
by 3gengames
I have an idea....Say taking the cart apart lowers the value because it's one less time the screws can be taken out....just trying to help.
And 2 runs? Interesting.....Maybe there's hope of finding more of these yet....I'd like one for cheap.

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:49 pm
by blargg
basitsch wrote:As I said, I do not know exactly what I have to looking for. So I thought, I'll ask the experts ;)
I meant, do you not trust the seller? Or do you trust him fully but want to be sure you know exactly what he's selling you, in case he's mistaken about its genuineness? These are questions we can't answer. I asked because those call for different actions.