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hello all,

I'am new in this forum and very happy to find it.

this day i want to make an proto card of titan warriors but shame on me it do not work ?

i take an Unrom donor card with an 27c1001 and wire :

bend up pins 1,2,24 and 31

solder pin 2 to hole 22 (A16)

solder pin 24 to GND (OE)

but i have black screen

any one have make it or have an idear about the mistake ?

lilou wrote:I'am new in this forum and very happy to find it.

this day i want to make an proto card of titan warriors

Have you first practiced by making a proto card of some UNROM homebrew game?

I'am new in this forum and very happy to find it.

See that my thread wasn't just pure speculation. People are actually HAPPY to find this forum for asking how to illegally make fake carts !

This forum is about NESDEV, not about making FAKE NES CARTS.

tepples wrote:

lilou wrote:I'am new in this forum and very happy to find it.

this day i want to make an proto card of titan warriors

Have you first practiced by making a proto card of some UNROM homebrew game?

no never is it my first one ,but don't no if it can possible whis it game?

when you take a look at the rom ,you see Unrom prg 128kb ,chr ram 8kb and mirroring V

or may be i don't connect it correctly ?

can some one say me where connect eprom Vpp,Vcc ,PGM and A17 ?

Bregalad wrote:

I'am new in this forum and very happy to find it.

See that my thread wasn't just pure speculation. People are actually HAPPY to find this forum for asking how to illegally make fake carts !

This forum is about NESDEV, not about making FAKE NES CARTS.

i anderstand that but i just want play it on my hardware i thinks it's very good game and i'am sad it never come on nes

Bregalad, what's your problem with this guy trying to play it on hardware? Are you saying that he's lying about wanting to play it on his NES, and really wants to pass it off as a genuine prototype?

Maybe. A fake prototype could easily sell for $100.
Even if this is not his intensions, it's 100% illegal to make a fake cart of a copyrighted game, no matter if the game is very good or very bad.

So I don't see why we should have to tolerate the people regularly come here for that - because we don't want to help them doing anything illegal.

It doesn't look like this guy is going to develop an amazing home-brew anytime. Again he's just an example of yet another troll, we have dozen of others.

He can play it on hardware with the Power Pak if he really wants to.

blargg wrote:Bregalad, what's your problem with this guy trying to play it on hardware? Are you saying that he's lying about wanting to play it on his NES, and really wants to pass it off as a genuine prototype?

no i just want to play it to my nes just that !

Bregalad wrote:Maybe. A fake prototype could easily sell for $100.
Even if this is not his intensions, it's 100% illegal to make a fake cart of a copyrighted game, no matter if the game is very good or very bad.

So I don't see why we should have to tolerate the people regularly come here for that - because we don't want to help them doing anything illegal.

It doesn't look like this guy is going to develop an amazing home-brew anytime. Again he's just an example of yet another troll, we have dozen of others.

He can play it on hardware with the Power Pak if he really wants to.

i andestand your opinion but buy a powerpack just for this game it very expensive isnt it ?

Okay, let's figure problems on their source :

Who actually give you the idea to start to create fake carts ?

i see an video of this game on youtub and i what amazing by it game, later i make some search about it for buy one, i see nothing that why later i seach on google how to play it on nes i find the retrozone power pack but for this one game i think is more expensive.


and i see some word about unrom i make seach and i arrive an dev wiki :


http://wiki.nesdev.com/w/index.php/UxROM

lilou wrote:no i just want to play it to my nes just that !

If you're not 1. writing software and testing compatibility with a mapper, or 2. trying to sell copies, then it might be cheaper in terms of your time just to play these games on a PowerPak. It might sound expensive at first, but time is money too: how much do you make an hour? And it'll let you play any other homebrews and dumped prototypes you come across.

Or hook a PC up to your TV and play on an emulator. This is even cheaper than a PowerPak, involving one cable ($10 VGA-to-VGA for an HDTV, or $40 VGA-to-composite for an SDTV), and a USB gamepad.

blargg wrote:Bregalad, what's your problem with this guy trying to play it on hardware? Are you saying that he's lying about wanting to play it on his NES, and really wants to pass it off as a genuine prototype?

Bregalad wrote:Maybe. A fake prototype could easily sell for $100. Even if this is not his intensions [...]

Just to be clear, you're coming down on him because he might be planning this, even though he just as well might not be?

it's 100% illegal to make a fake cart of a copyrighted game, no matter if the game is very good or very bad.

I thought copyright governed distribution of works. By building a personal copy he isn't distributing the work to anyone.

So I don't see why we should have to tolerate the people regularly come here for that - because we don't want to help them doing anything illegal.

I agree that we should not be assisting anyone with something that has no legal use.

It doesn't look like this guy is going to develop an amazing home-brew anytime. Again he's just an example of yet another troll, we have dozen of others.

So you think he was just posting in order to anger people, and is really not even making this cartridge?

He can play it on hardware with the Power Pak if he really wants to.

Are you sure that's legal? It seems virtually identical to putting it on EPROM and soldering into a cartridge, from a copyright point-of-view. Besides, it might be more expensive for him, or he might want to make an actual cartridge.

I have my own objections to helping this guy. His initial posting is poorly organized. Maybe English isn't his native language, but that doesn't change the fact that there is going to be a barrier to understanding. He doesn't seem to be interested in learning more about NES development, so time spent helping him is not a very good investment. Since we have limited time, we should invest it where it gives the most benefit to the community. For example, we might spend the time working on the Wiki.

blargg wrote:I thought copyright governed distribution of works.

Copyright also covers private reproduction, with some exceptions. From 17 USC 106:

US Congress wrote:Subject to sections 107 through 122, the owner of copyright under this title has the exclusive rights to do and to authorize any of the following:

(1) to reproduce the copyrighted work in copies or phonorecords

The exceptions for reproducing and distributing are far less broad than those for reproducing and not distributing, which is where people get the idea that selling "is more illegal".

I agree that we should not be assisting anyone with something that has no legal use.

Which is why I at least try to clothe it in trying to reproduce a homebrew first.

He can play it on hardware with the Power Pak if he really wants to.

Are you sure that's legal?

Using a PowerPak and not distributing is no more or less legal than rewiring a board and not distributing. But the one thing you can't do with a PowerPak is sell copies, which is "more illegal" because it is less likely to fall under an exception.

Besides, it might be more expensive for him

Which is why I asked about wages and about other games that the OP might want to repro, so that I could determine which is more expensive in terms of time=money.

I have my own objections to helping this guy. His initial posting is poorly organized. Maybe English isn't his native language

That's why I assume good faith with poor English on an English-only forum, except perhaps in a case with a comparable forum in another language.

Since we have limited time, we should invest it where it gives the most benefit to the community. For example, we might spend the time working on the Wiki.

Answering questions on forums helps find areas where the wiki is lacking.

Who cares guys let it be, why get your thing in a knot.

Have you tried soldering pins 1-32-31 together with a little piece of wire I find sometimes this works like a charm.