help with damage in controller port 1

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help with damage in controller port 1

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hi everybody
i'll be talking about somthin' happened 5 years ago when the 1st port of controller damaged.
2 weeks before that , the port was slightly desoldered(disentangled) from the board unintentionally due to the controller wrongly disconnecting , so i soldered it by using iron welding machine and it had worked well.2 weeks then , this port which is (1) didn't respond as the port 2 has worked well till now.
so what's the reason?i guess soldering has affected it.and what's the solution?
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the marked area on the right is the port that doesn't work.

i have two other consoles that don't work?can i replace the boards including the ports with each other?is there a hardware chip or piece that i have to change?and can i replace this piece by extracting it from another console?
all those questions have come on my mind for a long time till i found this forum whose members are experienced and helpful.
waiting 4 ur reply
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Post by Jeroen »

Looks like a clone system? Anyway I think we're gonna need some clearer pictures then that. It's hard to make out. OK so it worked for awhile and after 2 weeks it stopped working?
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Does your camera have a "macro" mode? It's supposed to be used for taking pictures of things from a close distance. If you don't turn that on the pictures will always come out blurry like that.
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It's probably gonna be an easy fix imo. I'll still wait for the clearer picture but sound like it can be fixed by soldering jumper wire from the pin to the trace where pin is supposed to be connected. That's assuming the board connection were lifted and separated from the rest of the trace around the pin of the connector which is common on that kind of cheap board specially on right angled plug because of the stress caused by insertions and tugging. I usually fix that kind of thing by scratching off the PCB trace insulation around the pin, exposing the copper and then creating a solder bridge between the pin connection and the trace where that connection is going. But I think jumper wire would be a better solution in the long run.
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what're the areas do u want exactly clearer?
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ouso1999 wrote:what're the areas do u want exactly clearer?
What he's saying, just more eloquently than me: all of the photos are horribly blurry. It's literally impossible to tell what's what (what trace goes where, your soldering work, etc.), and the text you added isn't readable either (if you're going to use JPEG, please ensure compression is at a bare minimum for quality reasons, otherwise use PNG).
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The Text has been modified.
what about those images?i used the macro mode but i don't know why the flash doesn't work
i wish they are fine
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The pictures are very hard to see, but it looks to me like there are burn marks all over the right hand side of that board. You did this with a "welder"? I hope that's a translation error, and you didn't really use a welding tool to solder electronics. This board looks badly damaged - it's likely fixable, but do not use the same tool that caused all of that damage!
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teaguecl wrote:The pictures are very hard to see,
what about these
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I think they are so clear.
teaguecl wrote:but it looks to me like there are burn marks all over the right hand side of that board. You did this with a "welder"? I hope that's a translation error, and you didn't really use a welding tool to solder electronics. This board looks badly damaged - it's likely fixable, but do not use the same tool that caused all of that damage!
welder?no i used iron welding and welding wire.
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Do you mean a soldering iron and solder?
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qbradq wrote:Do you mean a soldering iron and solder?
yeah
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Have you considered following my suggestion? It look like a pretty straighforward repair IMO.
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SkinnyV wrote:Have you considered following my suggestion? It look like a pretty straighforward repair IMO.
i said at first that the port was separated or disentangled from the board or the trace , so i soldered it and it worked well for awhile and 2 weeks then , it stopped working.i don't know till now what happened and why it stopped working.
u asked 4 clearer images.can the previous image help u to know what's wrong?
is there a hardware piece that has to be changed?i'm ready to take this piece from another console to replace it.
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You need an ohmmeter (or multimeter) to check, doesn't look like there is anything that can fail on there other than the connections. Besides the board, make sure the flat cable doesn't have bad solder or a broken connection on either end.

I presume the solder wire you used is rosin-core or whatever type intended for electronics. Solder for plumbing or other uses would be harmful to the board.
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Since your photos stil arent VERY clear are these points touching?
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