nesdev.org

Now we have targeted spam(?)! cool!...

I would like to make an addendum to my previous posts and say that if I get a tar.gz of the site's files and database, I can have a copy of this thing running in no time flat, for free, for a long time. (We are paid up on hosting bills for a long time and have funds in our account that will last longer).

(I also have BMF54123 hosted on my account, and I don't think he would let anything happen either, haha.)

*181230 <@Drag> Well, nesdev is a funny place
*181235 <@Drag> You basically need to go in and say
*181244 <@Drag> "Ok guys, I'm /going/ to host you"
*181255 <@Drag> otherwise, they'll just discuss it endlessly without coming to a consensus

I agree with this. The talk of archiving everything and starting over is seen as a universally terrible idea from my side, and I figure that getting things moved over sooner rather than waiting means that fears over the future can be laid to rest. (Though it wouldn't hurt to build an archive afterwards.)

Banshaku wrote:Now we have targeted spam(?)! cool!...

Heh, I was afraid it would come off like that. Just because I have never felt a need to post before doesn't mean I haven't been reading for a long time. Just thought we could provide a service.

Since you answered my "bait" then at the least we know is not just some random spam Since we have a lot of spam, I had to see what would be you answer. Sorry about that.

Thank you for the offer, we will consider it.

Banshaku wrote:Since you answered my "bait" then at the least we know is not just some random spam Since we have a lot of spam, I had to see what would be you answer. Sorry about that.

Thank you for the offer, we will consider it.

No problem, spam's a pain for us all.

Xkeeper wrote:I would like to make an addendum to my previous posts and say that if I get a tar.gz of the site's files and database, I can have a copy of this thing running in no time flat, for free, for a long time. (We are paid up on hosting bills for a long time and have funds in our account that will last longer).

(I also have BMF54123 hosted on my account, and I don't think he would let anything happen either, haha.)

*181230 <@Drag> Well, nesdev is a funny place
*181235 <@Drag> You basically need to go in and say
*181244 <@Drag> "Ok guys, I'm /going/ to host you"
*181255 <@Drag> otherwise, they'll just discuss it endlessly without coming to a consensus

I agree with this. The talk of archiving everything and starting over is seen as a universally terrible idea from my side, and I figure that getting things moved over sooner rather than waiting means that fears over the future can be laid to rest. (Though it wouldn't hurt to build an archive afterwards.)

I have no real stance on the matter; I'm leaving the decisions here up to the other moderators, including Memblers, and the general community. If everyone signs off on it, then we'll lock the board down and I'll be happy to provide a tarball of the site + mysqldump of the existing DB. I will redirect URLs / point DNS A records wherever they need to go per folks' requests. Rest assured you'll get no push-back from me. :-)

Three things to keep in mind if you do end up hosting this:

1. File/directory permissions. We use the Apache 2 ITK MPM, where httpd changes its uid/gid before doing any kind of exec or file I/O. Thus stupid things like "chmod {666,777}" are a thing of the past. There's really no other way to run a multi-user-safe Apache instance. suexec/cgiwrap don't cut it. So just keep in mind that some manual chmods may be required.

2. The forum software is, as I understand it, a bit modified to work with UTF-8. Quietust, if I remember right, did a lot of this work. So if someone considers upgrading the board, well, keep that in mind.

3. Configuration files for the board, etc. need to be changed to refer to a completely new base URL for cookies + server-side-sessions. Please don't keep them referring to nesdev.com. I forget where this is within the config file, but worth pointing out / reminding folks of anyway.

Eclipsed Moon wrote:The Konfiskated Teknologies Network (kontek.net) would like to extend an offer of free hosting to any affected sites. We previously handled the relocation of many IGN hosted sites as they shut down, and would gladly take on some more.

E-mail me at eclipsedmoon@gmail.com for any inquiries, or use any of the IM screen names linked to my account here.

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I might take you up on that. Expect an email in a while.

I just want to take the opportunity to thank koitsu for being as generous as he has been with NesDev. I've not posted here a ton, but this place has been one of my daily reads for quite some time now, and even having no NES programming experience I know more about the system now than I did before I ever visited the site/forums. I also want to thank the forum staff for helping keep this place clean. I know that the days of NesDev aren't over, but I like to think of it as the ending of one era and the beginning of another.

Here's to years and years of future NesDev goodness.

Good luck in your future endeavors, koitsu!

I second that. Thanks for the great hosting. It's too bad it must come to an end. Hopefully everyone including you will be coming to nesdev's eventual new home, where ever that may be.

Oh, of course. I'm not gonna give up one any of my daily reads just because they change hosting

Just curious, has there been any decision as far as hosting? My offer still stands for hosting nesdev and related.

Also, regardless of where it ends up being hosted, I would like to volunteer my services for a homepage redesign & cleanup.

WhoaMan, I meant to call you the other night but was a little busy (I would now, but I'm at work). Your offer seems like the best one so far, I'll try to contact you soon so we can figure out the details.

hehe, I was just curious since I had not heard anything about hosting for a few days. Like I mentioned in the PM, you can also get in touch by email or PM if it is easier.

I feel very sad, like when people have to pack up and move.

But sometimes when there are endings there are also beginnings.

Ponder on this, everyone, if you will.

:-/

I hope that you guys can figure something out and yes it seems like there is enough time as long as an agreement is made. I also have a suggestion.

I think the forum and the wiki is going to be more difficult to to find a place and move it. If no consensus can be made about it. I do suggest to at least move the main site to another server. I assume that the forum and wiki consumes the most bandwidth.

Also remove some of the backup downloads as well as writing some htaccess scripts to block hotlinking (if there isn't already one in place here). That should cut the bandwidth consumption down some. That's what I have done with my own website.

Anything to be done to cut bandwidth usage at a new place since I doubt that many places would offer as much bandwidth.

Just a suggestion! But consider it.



To koitsu:


I hope that you consider staying with the community whatever may happen in the future. It seems like to me that you have contributed so much to NESdev, not to mention the translation hacking community, providing ad-free webspace to many people for a very long time. As well as your other contributions over the years. It's beyond price and very much appreciated!

I can say that I will remember everything that you've done for the community. Thank you!