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Appreciate the split, but can we lock this thread and move the discussion to my forum? The people using my emulator are much more likely to be affected, and thus to have input on the spec. And it applies to much more than just the NES.

My forum is at board.byuu.org, and anyone who wants to continue the discussion can do so there. Thanks!

I'll lock it once my account there is activated.

byuu wrote:Appreciate the split, but can we lock this thread and move the discussion to my forum?

tepples wrote:I'll lock it once my account there is activated.

Seriously?

So, let me get this straight: byuu gets upset that the discussion isn't going his way and decides he only wants to discuss it on his own turf. Fine, whatever. But locking the thread to prevent others from continuing the discussion accomplishes what, exactly? Not a good precedent...

I think splitting may have killed the thread anyway.

James wrote: So, let me get this straight: byuu gets upset that the discussion isn't going his way and decides he only wants to discuss it on his own turf. Fine, whatever. But locking the thread to prevent others from continuing the discussion accomplishes what, exactly? Not a good precedent...

Settle down, there's no conspiracy here. If we want to continue discussing byuu's format here we can. However, since byuu won't be participating, there's not much point. If he wants to discuss it on his forums, that's his right. If we want to complain and moan here with nobody listening, that's our right - just not very productive.

The only sensible solution is to fork byuu's format and start our own /scarcasm

Seriously, leave the guy alone. He's drawn a line in the sand for his emulator and said he'll only support this new format. Who cares? He's done it deliberately, and with full knowledge of the landscape of the NES scene and the repercussions of that decision. He's not asking anyone else to use it, and isn't proposing it as a replacement for iNES. Let's turn our attention to more important things.

teaguecl wrote:He's not asking anyone else to use it, and isn't proposing it as a replacement for iNES.

If byuu weren't providing a converter from iNES (1 and 2), he'd be asking other people to release their ROMs in his format. But as long as he provides a converter, we can consider this an "intermediate representation", an implementation detail of the emulator, just as GBA and DS games need to be "converted" to run on certain flash adapters.

It's pretty easy these days to deliver an emulator-specific rom format if one felt that the legacy standard was holding back compatibility gaurantees. A set of 2300 files uploaded to numerous hosting sites and linked to on several forums would eventually show up on filesearch engines and google. You can't convert a bad or missing header into a working file, any sort of tool would take significantly longer and be less reliable than finding one of these links where the conversion work has been done for you.

It's as if iNES is the worst thing in the world reading your guys posts. It's pretty laughable people really are going against it since it's perfect and even extendable by default.

"iNES sucks."
"You implement iNES 2.0 to fix every problem there could be in the future?"
"No, because it sucks and 2.0 doesn't exist yet because no ROM uses it"
"It's as if they don't need it yet....weird."