ENIO - NES Ethernet & USB KB Adapter

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Re: ENIO - NES Ethernet & USB KB Adapter

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Nes Kid wrote::? Yes but what can you do? can you surf the web in 8 electrical paths in binary (8-bit)
Yep, you can use google maps in 8bit like this:

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Nes Kid wrote::? Yes but what can you do? can you surf the web in 8 electrical paths in binary (8-bit)
Maybe you can; I don't know. But probably one of the simplest things to make with it would be a gopher client. Perhaps other things too, such as internet chess, IRC, etc.
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Nes Kid wrote::? Yes but what can you do? can you surf the web in 8 electrical paths in binary (8-bit)
You and the NES are the only limits as to what you can do with this thing really. The ENIO is really only handling the net communications for you. It's up to you the developer to make something awesome with it. The other choice is wait around for someone else to develop something.

I guess it depends on the person but I don't really see the point try and surf the net or chat on the NES aside from novelty. Things I think would be cool is playing against each other on the net. Something like a simultaneous coop might be hard to do live, but most multiplayer NES games are turn based which could be easily supported. I think it'd also be cool to just have a nesdev score board or something of the likes. After publishing coding compo carts we could then have a playing compo, or bragging rights for high score and such ;)

If it were paired with a standardized flash cart we could have a library of homebrews that could be downloaded directly to the NES. Although that would be more of a novelty I guess...
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:mrgreen: I can't wait to get myself one! If the cpu board is already available, I would like to know how I get it.
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:? Do you need a power pack to play games with each other? :?
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Nes Kid wrote::? Do you need a power pack to play games with each other? :?
Depends on how said game is released. The power pak or any basic flash/dev cart is certainly an option. It'd also be possible to publish a cart. Those decisions are all really up to the author of the game. Hopefully if it's meant to be for the community as some competition all those possibilities will be included.
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infiniteneslives wrote:I guess it depends on the person but I don't really see the point try and surf the net or chat on the NES aside from novelty.
The novelty of doing things on an NES is what brings us together here, after all. Isn't it? I don't think I'd really be interested in doing online stuff on my NES, but I'm sure it would be fun for somebody. Also if we could get an ENIO emulation going in an internet-capable emulator, we might be able to get a lot more people online to try.
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In my opinion, ENIO would need a kick-ass flag-ship project to promote it. Something that would make even non-coder want one...
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rainwarrior wrote:The novelty of doing things on an NES is what brings us together here, after all. Isn't it?
Yeah as I rambled I kinda realized I was merely weighing one novel thing against another ;)

I think chykn had already prepared emulator support which would help combat the issue you bring up SkinnyV, getting em in the hands of a non-dev'r is going to be tough. The possibility of giving people a taste of the ENIO without buying one. While a flag-ship project would definitely help I think something possibly more achievable is integrating it into a compo. Sort of a few small things by a group of us to get the ball rolling. Even if we made up a simple way for a developer to simply communicate the high score/fastest time so the ENIO wasn't the entire focus of the compo. Just make is a side option then have ENIO's as prizes or something for both the developer and high scoring gamer. Not sure how well we could keep people from cheating though with emu support... Guess we'd have to be on the honor system ;)
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:wink: I guess it would be all of us on ENIO, that seems cool infin and skin and all of us :)
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A few updates...

1. After reading some of the comments, I went back and restructured the code in a more modular fashion. I split all the ENIO specific functions into their own files, ENIO.c & ENIO.h. As promised, these will be open source. My original implementation of the ENIO code in FCEUX was utter crap. This one is a bit cleaner and will hopefully be easier to roll into the emulators.

2. I owe an apology to those who already have the CPU boards and have patiently been waiting for code updates and the most recent version of the CGP protocol. I will try to have those provided this week.

3. I received a full panel of (30) CPU board PCB's tonight. Assembled and tested one, everything checked out.
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4. Once I provide the aforementioned code updates and documentation, I'll start building more CPU boards. My goal is to have (10) built in the next week. As they are finished they will be offered to those who already purchased EXP boards. I said before that I would not charge more than $60 for the CPU board and that anyone who purchased both EXP & CPU board would get $10 off the pair. So if you already have an EXP board, the CPU board will be $50 + $5 shipping within the US.
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chykn wrote:A few updates...

1. After reading some of the comments, I went back and restructured the code in a more modular fashion. I split all the ENIO specific functions into their own files, ENIO.c & ENIO.h. As promised, these will be open source. My original implementation of the ENIO code in FCEUX was utter crap. This one is a bit cleaner and will hopefully be easier to roll into the emulators.

2. I owe an apology to those who already have the CPU boards and have patiently been waiting for code updates and the most recent version of the CGP protocol. I will try to have those provided this week.

3. I received a full panel of (30) CPU board PCB's tonight. Assembled and tested one, everything checked out.
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4. Once I provide the aforementioned code updates and documentation, I'll start building more CPU boards. My goal is to have (10) built in the next week. As they are finished they will be offered to those who already purchased EXP boards. I said before that I would not charge more than $60 for the CPU board and that anyone who purchased both EXP & CPU board would get $10 off the pair. So if you already have an EXP board, the CPU board will be $50 + $5 shipping within the US.
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Chykn, please update your status report on enio wiki. Thank you. :mrgreen:
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Say,would ENIO be able to connect from Japan? :?
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So when can we expect to see some sort of software demo for the CGP/ networking portion of the ENIO?
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